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I have read in other people's threads about how they want their therapist to hug them but their T has a no touch policy, etc.



I'm wondering what everyone else's experience with this is.

What is your Ts policy on touch?
Have you touched your T?
Have you hugged your T?
Does your T maintain a 4'boundary?
Has your T touched you anywhere on your body (knee, shoulder) when you were crying?
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Have I touched my T?
I might have shaken his hand the very first time we met in one of H's sessions, otherwise no.

Have I hugged my T?
Negative.

Does my T maintain a 4' boundary?
Usually. He sat on the floor with me for a while and was within 3' on Monday and then yesterday decided to take it away. Frowner

Has your T touched you anywhere on your body?
Yes, but not when I was crying. Once, while waiting in the lobby, I had my iPod so loud (due to anxiety) that he couldn't get my attention any other way, but to tap me. Whoops!

Do I know my T's policy?
Nope, despite wanting to know the boundaries, he doesn't seem to be willing or able to tell me. Roll Eyes
Well I am one of those whose T maintains a 4 foot space between us. He does hand me appointment cards or a book but he does it with a long extended hand and a very quick shuffle backwards. I think my T is concerned with my safety and for most of the 3 years I've been seeing him I haven't minded the distance. Lately it has been bothering me.

I've been trying to discuss the boundaries with him without a lot of success. Yesterday I sent him a long email explaining why I thought him avoiding the issue shut down my ability to talk about what I was thinking about both the desire for touch and what it means to me in the context of our relationship and how it relates to a lot of other relationships in my life. I told him I had avoided conversations I thought he was uncomfortable with and that is why I thought we didn't work well together. I told him I thought I wouldn't come to my appointment tonight. I got back the shortest email possible saying great stuff, looking forward to talking about it. I laughed. So if I go maybe I'll get to discuss it with him.
Incognito,

I am laughing at your Ts response to your email saying you might not come to your appointment. Its like he is responding to another email entirely! It always amazes me what our Ts come up with when they reply to statements like, "i'm not coming to therapy". Its never what you think its going to be that comes out of their mouth.
Hi LG,

I think that touch is very important in therapy (for some people, maybe not everyone). What I think is even more beneficial is simply the *knowledge* that my T is open to safe touch. I think it portrays a lot to me about what she's like, if she's a safe person, etc. We've never hugged, but we've sat on the floor a few times and she's wrapped her arm around me. Whenever she takes her arm from my shoulder, she'll sometimes talk about remembering what it feels like to have her arm around me if I get in a spot where I feel unsafe (or any other time where I would want that touch).

I also think it's a good sign that you want physical contact with T2. Sometimes when I don't want my T to touch me (which has been the case lately), I feel like we're taking a few steps back. I also think it could be due to accessing different parts and all, but that's another thing entirely. Anyway, do you think you can start some dialogue about touch now so that by the time your T leaves, you can hopefully have some answers about where your T stands on it?
STRM... I think you are courageous and inspirational and have nothing to be ashamed about. For many months during the winter of 2010 before the abandonment by oldT I slept with the little stuffed Golden dog he gave me under my pillow, close at hand. I just felt safer and that the connection was still there and was real. And I'm older than you!

As for touch...

OldT never touched me for an entire year. No intro handshake, nothing. He handed me a bottle of water one time and our hands brushed and I thought I would faint from the intensity of it. Then almost exactly one year after we met I extended my hand to HIM. He took it and held it and shook it warmly. That was the opening for our handshakes at session end. After a few months of this he took to patting my shoulder or arm as I left his office. Some monthls later he initiated a hug. We had discussed both the handshake and the potential for a hug before it happened. I made it clear to him that I felt safe touch was important to my healing and that I would not reject it or be freaked out by it so I guess he felt secure enough to offer it to me. We did not hug at every session but most and usually it was me who would ask for one at the end of any intense sessions. It was grounding for me. We hugged right up until the night before my surgery which was 7 days before he abandoned me. It does add to my confusion over his behavior because he hugged me right through all the disruptions of the summer and up until the session before the last one. He also shook my hand ... both coming and going... at that farce of a transitional session at D's office.

My current T.... he shook my hand first time I met him... both before the session and at the end of the session. I remember asking him if it was okay that we shook hands... was it allowed and he laughed and said "yes, of course it is". That's when he also told me to call him by his first name, no Dr. stuff and that I could email him anytime I wanted to and could also beep him. I so needed to hear that at the time. I was so hurt and in pain. I would say probably 2-3 months after that he began to pat my arm or shoulder when I was leaving. This was HUGE for me because I was feeling so untouchable and also because he is not exactly a warm and fuzzy kind of guy and this was a sort of peak past his facade of being detached. It also allowed me to leave him holding onto that touch, that connection that I needed so badly.

As for seating... he sits in his chair about 4 feet away from me when we are conversing normally. There is no coffee table in his office. When I cry to get upset or start to dissociate he wheels himself closer to me and leans forward. I LOVE when he does that ... it's so comforting to me and it feels so darn good. But when I calm down he wheels back to his usual place. I want to tell him "no stay close please".

One time with oldT I asked if we could sit together on his couch. I didn't realize how short his couch was until that day LOL. It was hard to sit so close to him and talk about really hard stuff.

Another time shortly after beginning my own sessions with oldT I changed seats. I moved from his couch with the coffee table between us to the french chair directly across from him about 3 feet away. We sat like that for years and years.... until the very end. He didn't ask me why I moved that day and so at the end of the session I said to him "well aren't you going to ask me why I moved?" He laughed and said he noticed and was wondering. So I said "well I'll tell you why" and then I told him how I didn't like being so far away from him and how the coffee table felt like a barrier and I didn't like that feeling. He accepted my explanation calmly and praised me for being brave enough to tell him the real reasons why I moved.

TN
Just adding my info:

What is your Ts policy on touch?

I haven't asked about any 'policy', but she seems open enough. She started putting her arm around me as we went down the hallway after sessions starting at my third session. It was weird at first, and I think that is when the attachment really started for me. I often wonder if I would be as attached to her if she was a 'hands off' kind of T.

Have you touched your T?

I have put my arm around my T in reciprocation of her arm around me on a few occasions, and it felt weird, so it was brief.

Have you hugged your T?

Yes. I have hugged my T several times. She has almost always been the initiator, as I wouldn't have the courage typically to initiate a hug. However on one really intense occasion I did reach for her for a hug, which she returned, but very quickly took my hands from around her and held them for a while in hers while we repaired a rupture that was a pretty big deal in my therapy with her. I don't know that I'd have the 'guts' to do that again.

Does your T maintain a 4'boundary?

No. She usually sits close enough to me that our feet could (and have on occasion) touch while our legs are crossed over our knees. Sometimes, especially when I'm really struggling, or she wants to hit home some message she's trying to get across to me, she'll move in close. She has even leaned in with her face at such times, trying to get me to connect with her and she will do this to force eye contact because I can't help but look her in the eye when she gets right up close and personal. I have a love/hate relationship with that.

Has your T touched you anywhere on your body (knee, shoulder) when you were crying?

Once she held my hand in both of hers, and another time she put her hand around one of my wrists, both times while I was crying, in an attempt to show me her care and that she was there trying to connect. She has also playfully tapped me on the knee when she was joking around about something.

I think my T is pretty open to touch. However, I have yet to really initiate any touch myself, as I am uncomfortable with the idea of crossing a boundary with her, and don't really know her 'policy', or if she thinks my putting my arm around her when she puts hers around me is a bit too much. After all, she's the 'care giver', right?

MTF
I think touch can be very powerful and helpful for healing. I have no idea what either of my T’s policies are around touch. I have wanted hugs or touch at times, but it was just too much to even try to speak or go there for me. I think I would seriously pass out if either of my Ts hugged me. 6 months ago, it used to be very hard if they got too close. Now, it’s easy. I notice, but not in a guarded way. I feel comforted when they sit or stand close. I also have a lot of freedom to change seats or back up if I need to. I’ve talked about this physical space thing with my Ts. We have also worked on eye contact in intense moments. I haven’t talked about touch with either of my Ts. I think they probably assume (correctly) that it’s too close. Yet sometimes, I still would love a hug or a gentle hand on my shoulder. I think it would also be really hard too. I hope I’ll get to the point of talking about that when I need to.

The eye contact thing - there are times when either T will ask if I can make eye contact. It has been horribly hard, and I have been greatly thankful they have done that. I now can make eye contact in intense moments much easier, and it really makes what they say hit me at a much deeper level. It can be very comforting and scary - it melts my walls. A bit like touch can.

While I have a hard time with touch with my Ts and can't really go there right now, touch still plays a role in my therapy anyhow. I do equine T and at my last appointment, something hard came up, and I sorta leaned my side against the horse, and put my hand up against her neck, just very naturally. I clung to the horse’s lead rope. There were times too, when I got distracted and started to numb out, and this old horse (sensing that I wasn’t leading anymore) just ever so gently nudged me with her head. It brought me right back. My regular T has a blanket in her office that I like to just hold sometimes. It helps.

I’m not sure exactly what makes touch with my Ts so hard. Touch isn’t always easy with others, but it’s a lot easier than with my Ts. I think I probably feel the most vulnerable with my Ts though, at least right now. It’s also the most one sided of relationships that I have in my life.

jd
my t holds me
but never against my will, only if i say that's what i want
bcuz some parts of me want that and some dont
so she is respectful not forceful
yet she is willing

like the last sessions i didnt ask for contact so she gave me distance
but few weeks ago when i wanted to hug her she came sat next to me on couch
and we held each other tight for awhile
i knew she loved me

i feel sad for people who dont have choice
but it took me long time to believe i did
and that t would not turn me away
that i was not poison to her
Wow LG... really big things going on in therapy today. Even though you didn't sit in the rocking chair it took courage to tell her that you wanted to. And I like all her responses to you... it shows how attuned she is to you and also how observant. But she just doesn't take in what you do, she understands it in the context of what it means in the relationship.

You are starting to move closer not only physically but in the relationship. I know that is really scary for you and I can see you want to both run towards her and run away from her at the same time. Been there done that... still doing that....classic disorganized attachment pattern playing out.

I'm so glad you moved closer to her and I look forward to hearing you tell us that you were rocking away on that rocking chair real soon.

TN
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I'm getting to a point where running feels scarier than getting close. I think this is a good thing.


I think, despite where I'm at with my own experience, I can agree it's a good thing. I can really relate to running feeling scarier than getting close. I wanted to bail on T so badly Tuesday night, but the idea of running from him was much scarier than sitting there in pain with him.
I've really been wanting to ask T2 for a hug but have been too afraid to out of fear of rejection, fear of sending her the wrong message, fear that she will worry that I am becoming too attached,etc. I am scared she will pull away, push me away, distance herself, etc. if I ask for a hug.

I sent a text to T1 this morning and asked her, "Do you hug your clients? I am not sure if therapists do that or not? I want to ask T2 for a hug but am afraid she will say no. Is this weird?"

I haven't heard back from her, but I am thinking that if she says that she does not hug clients, I will never ask T2 for a hug. If T1 does hug clients, I might be more inclined to take the risk of asking T2 for a hug. Although really, I should not draw any parallels between the two because they are very different people/personalities with very different boundaries.

My prediction is that T1 will respond with something along the lines of, "Yes, I occassionally hug clients. I think you should ask T2 what her policy on hugging is because every therapist is different".
I'm going to listen to that free webinar on the banner here, because seeing "Hugs in Therapy" keeps making me upset and I'm hoping it brings me some insight. I am like 99% sure my T would turn me down if I asked for a hug. Frowner Dude regrets sitting three feet away from me. I know, I know...for my own good, supposedly. I need to just learn to talk to him about it. I mean, now that I think about it, not talking about it doesn't change anything. If he's not going to sit with me or touch me or hug me or any of those things my tiniest little parts are begging for, then what does it matter if I talk to him about those honest yearnings? It's not going to make him any LESS likely to be close to me. And he's not going to abandon me over just expressing those desires, as long as I'm not jumping in his lap and demanding it, right? I think I just figured out that I have absolutely nothing to lose in that conversation and everything to gain, because it will allow him to see how deeply the issue of connection and closeness runs for me and how much pain it has me in. OK, I swear I will tell him in our Friday phone call. Yeah right! Razzer Still have a way to go from knowing that it is OK to talk about to feeling safe on that topic, especially with how I dealt with the rejection of him moving away from me.
((((LG))))

Even before you broach the subject, you can preface it by saying that it's something that you've thought a lot about but have trouble talking about it. That way, maybe your T can help you out by not making you spell everything out if you're having trouble (so long as she understands the point you want to make).
oh, I'm so sorry. I posted my response and then had to jump on the bus and then realized, oh wait... I should say what was said on the podcast. I agree with STRM, it was well done - and the forum posts mentioned, I remember them, but the refferences were vague and did not use names of people at all. I think it gave me an attack of PAD because I was like... oh yeah... people read this stuff... (and yeah, duh jane..) eh, just me and my stuff. Sorry I didn't clarify that.
jd
DF,

The podcast really isn't that big of a deal. Very nicely done and very short. Really just touched the surface of the issue.

You are definitely NOT unhuggable. That I am certain has nothing to do with the situation.

This was mentioned in the podcast, but it would really be helpful if T's just stated their policy on touch at the beginning of therapy. Ya know? I guess my T mentioned it in her info, but I figured she meant more clinical and inadvertent touch rather than the more hands on touch that we actually do. I was actually quite shocked the first time she really touched me. Go figure.
Even more confusing was the fact that my reg email went in my email box, but the confirmation link for the webinar went into my SPAM. I listened to the first half last night and then spent time with H, so onto the second half right now. So, if I decide to buck up and tell T, "Something in me feels this intense draw every time you are in the room to just be close to you and be comforted by your physical presence. It makes me want you to sit close to me when you are far, and so I can't look at how far away you are. It makes me want you to hug and comfort me when you are near, so I cannot let myself realize your nearness. It makes me want to take your hand when I say hello and goodbye, so I cannot do either properly."

...there is no way he is going to say, "Eeeww...yuck. I'm your therapist. That's just wrong!" right? He might say he doesn't think that's wise or best for me...but he'll understand and receive how painful it is for me to be in his presence wanting those things and feeling like I cannot have them, right? He will find a way to comfort me about not having them if he can't offer them, right? Maybe I will learn his boundaries or something. There is no way T will be cruel and push me away...right?
Posted this under the podcast, but figured I might as well share it here as well. Trying to decide whether to share it with T, still. Sorry, it is long and no one need read it, but in case my working through this stuff in my mind is helpful to anyone, I thought I might share.

As a client, I really wish every therapist would be up front on their boundaries around touch from the very start. I feel like I've been dancing around this topic with my therapist for a couple of months. We do a lot of work with my journal entries and there are a lot that focus around how I feel like need closeness, physical connection, etc. to safely release some of the emotions that are surfacing for me. I have made commentary about wanting to know what the boundaries are, what I can expect him to do if I am in pain...but I feel like unless I specifically ask him, "Do you touch clients? Handshakes? Hugs? A hand on someone's shoulder? Would you do that for me? Do I have to ask for it or would you offer it if you sensed I wanted or needed it?" I will never know. Yet, at the same time, it is impossible for me to ask directly. The best I can manage is to continually express my needs, while aiming them at the ambiguous “someone” or “anyone.” Therapists, if you are reading or hearing such statements from your clients, it’s very probable they mean YOU. All it might take to give me permission to address these questions with him is the simple questions, “Is someone a specific person?” or “Who is anyone?”

Last month, I started sitting on the floor when I was too overwhelmed by the distance. My therapist started joining me on the floor, sitting side-by-side with me (which I had expressed as a need), but still four or five feet away. The intensity of wanting and enjoying that "connectedness" while not knowing if my feelings there in that space were "OK" with my therapist meant that configuration left me panicking, albeit in a different way than the distance panics me. Instead of being shut down (distant configuration), I found myself powerfully drawn in toward something I wasn't sure I was "allowed" to have. If he was far and we were divided by the coffee table, I could barely look at him, because sensing that disconnect was painful. If he sat with me on the floor, I experienced a powerful urge to draw closer and make physical contact, but not knowing the availability of such an experience, I fought to contain it on my own, which was a very painful experience. As my therapist sensed how overwhelming my experience of our connection was, the amplification of my usual separation anxiety, he said, "Perhaps I should not have sat on the floor with you." Ouch! So now, considering his withdrawal, it is nearly impossible for me to ask where he stands on the issue of touch, because of an inner certainty that my needs will be rejected…again. And as my therapist himself has noted, the message of invalidated need, that I would ask for something, allow someone to meet my need and then have it not be OK is the most distressing, excruciating experience I can imagine. It is like being at the end, teetering over the edge, of my own inner world.

There are many past precedents for why this is so, ranging from an extremely touch-deprived childhood to assaults in my preteen and teenage years to having safe touch within my marriage damaged by a sleep condition that my husband has. Without touch, my therapist and I have still been able to explore the messages of being "too much" and "not enough" and the real experiences of being pushed away and invaded by people I should have been able to trust. Therapy is the first place I've been connected enough to someone I trust to actually want to approach for safe, non-sexual connection and touch...yet, my concern for my therapist's invisible (yes, possibly imaginary) boundaries means I am paralyzed. I am drawn toward him as a safe, trustworthy person, so I cannot run away (despite often wanting to), yet I am repelled by the sense that he will not receive or accept those needs. So, I am literally inanimate unless he approaches...and this is true of both the physical aspects and our verbal interactions in general. I need explicit permission for almost every positive experience I have within therapy: learning what it means to be open and vulnerable; asking for things I need and allowing him to meet those needs; and yes, wanting to be hugged.

I have no initiation, no power, no responsibility for getting those needs met. And honestly, he may be wise to patiently wait for me to take up those things, as offering them before I can clearly communicate when I want and do not want them would be quite dangerous. However, I wonder if therapists realize how impossible it is to ask for something that has been withheld to the point that something inside believes you simply must be literally untouchable and unapproachable. It feels like asking my therapist to give me a unicorn...in my mind, the possibility just does not exist within nature that he CAN touch me without being repelled, damaged or transfigured into an abuser somehow. The potential that I might be loveable and touchable by him seems fiction or fantasy. For the sake of not reliving one of the most painful messages many of us clients experienced in our childhood (which is that no one can be close and safe at the same time, either because we were neglected, physically abused or sexually assaulted), I think it a therapist's basic policy should be stated up front and clearly labeled as their boundary/choice (i.e. not something that is dependent upon the client's innate approachability).

That being said, I do realize the importance of client initiation, especially in cases like mine where we have been unable to repel or say no to unwanted contact in the past. So, while having the general policy out there is a must in my opinion, there may be cases where it would be wiser to let the client ask for contact rather than even offer it. I think reassuring a client that it is an available resource (if the therapist indeed feels comfortable with it) is important, but if the therapist is approaching without explicit invitation, I wonder if some clients may experience it as invasion and be unable to vocalize the fear that accompanies it. I'm assuming those therapists who practice touch are aware that it is a constant negotiation and most of that negotiation is probably occurring within the clients themselves, with the therapist taking on the role of a facilitator.

In my case, it would probably be two completely different experiences if my therapist asked, "Do you want a hug right now?" and "What would it mean if I moved closer in this context? Would you feel comforted? Invaded? Would you want touch? Do you think you'd be able to ask for it? To say no?" In the first scenario, my panic at having to answer the offer would probably lead me to jump over all the important reflection that MUST attend touch in my case. I would react instinctively either, "Yes, I desperately desire a hug," or "No, I can't receive it. I don't deserve such a thing." But, even if I desperately desire touch, I might not be ready for it (and without asking the latter questions, I would not be able to realize it). And if I could not receive it, not because it would be a negative experience, but because feeling a lack of permission, jumping over those same questions would rob me of realizing that a hug would be a safe, healing, releasing experience in the present moment.

In the end, as much as it seems essential that therapists put this conversation out there, I realize that I need to take responsibility for the discussion within my therapy experience. Even if the answer is that touch is not something my therapist feels able to offer me, I need to understand that it is just his personal preference to express his care in other ways and it does not reflect upon me. I need to be ready to not internalize his boundaries as rejection. And if I look at it from that perspective, as a client, I have nothing to lose from bringing up the topic. If he truly is the safe, trustworthy therapist he has demonstrated himself to be, then he will not be disgusted or intimidated by my feelings of need there. He will accept them, receive them, explore their meaning with me and grieve with me. I am not receiving touch now, and should I find out he cannot offer it, nothing will have "moved," even if my experience of him is temporarily altered (as it was when he said he should not have sat with me). However, I will have the opportunity, when I am ready, to explore what it means to not have that experience available to me. Or if I am wrong, and touch is something he offers within an appropriate context...well, then I shall have my hug at last! All that really remains in my case is to decide when I am ready to explore the meaning behind the pain of the "deprivation" I am already experiencing.
LG - I think when I do ask T about it, I'd like to ask him at a time when I DON'T actually want a hug or closeness, so it will not feel like he is rejecting me in the moment. I'd like to ask the question as an adult woman who likes her therapist but doesn't NEED to be reassured with touch, then communicate that answer to the little ones who feel so drawn to him. If I ask when I am already little and needy and T says, "Sorry, no can do, Kiddo," I'm not sure I'm capable of anything less than a meltdown like I had when he said he shouldn't have sat on the floor with me.

I think it's sweet that she responded so well to your getting comfy there in her office. I'm sorry she's going out of town soon. I'm sure that will be hard. My T has only been out of town once since I started seeing him in September. It was over the Christmas holiday and I think I had to go a little over two weeks without seeing him. At the time, we were doing weekly, so it wasn't so bad, except that the holiday was so triggering for me. That's when I really ramped up my journaling. Maybe he hasn't left me again since then, because he's afraid it will increase again. Wink
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Originally posted by scaredtoriskmyself:
Oh gosh LG! That is a huge break. I'm sorry. Nothing wrong with asking for a hug and hopefully she will say yes!

I feel for you on the back to back vacations. That is actually my biggest fear is that my T will take her vacation butted up against mine in September and we'll end up with a huge break.


Maybe you can ask your T if she's going to be going anywhere this fall? I think our Ts should be required to give us a 1 year calendar of their vacations so we can plan around them!
Back in June I started seeing a Psychotherapist. I am absolutely thrilled with her. I have major issues about opening up with anyone, including my parents. She is the first person that has gotten me to really open up and talk. We do know each other on a personal level as she used to be a member of my Church, which kind of complicates things a little bit, as does my keeping boundaries. I have Aspergers so understanding boundaries and what is and isn't appropriate is difficult for me. But, I sometimes feel it would be helpful for me to have her hold my hand when difficult topics for me to talk about come up or when I am really upset. I live alone so I don't get a lot of touch at home. I think it would be really beneficial for me, but I am too scared to ask.
Regarding touch in therapy:

My first T never really had any touch. I think I shook his hand when we first met at the intake session.

My second T would hug me at the end of certain sessions (if they were intense) and he would also kiss me on the top of my head. He was very much a father figure. Sometimes I would initiate the hug, sometimes he would. It would just depend.

My third T: I don't remember shaking his hand at the intake session or any other time. The only time there has been any touch is when we do EMDR and he taps the tops of my hands for the bilateral stimulation. He once asked me if it would be beneficial for me if I held his hand. I looked at him and said, "No, I'm not a baby." He said, "I'm not saying that, I'm not being facetious. It's a way of staying connected to you." This was during the times when I would tend to go into panic attacks during EMDR, processing memories. Hope I didn't offend him, but...that's the only touch that I've experienced with him.

I do miss my second T. More than he ever knows.

LJB
I'm envious of all of you with T's that touch. My T inherited his office the way it was and there's a desk he sits behind that's pretty much the size of a dining room table. Even worse, there's a coffee table in front of the couch I sit on. He only sits in his chair. I shook his hand once when we met. I've slowly been moving closer on the couch. I've even ditched the pillow barrier (I used to hold onto a pillow during sessions) and tried to move closer.

I would love if we had some sort of touch. He always says he cares about me and honestly as much as I believe it I would feel so reassured if he at least pat me on the back or something.

Growing up my family never showed affection. I don't remember the last time I hugged my siblings and my mom... when I told her I was pregnant. I initiated the hug and even then she was a little awkward about it. The other family in the room were uncomfortable just watching the hug. Now that I'm having problems with my husband, his touch is withdrawing and I feel somehow like I'm suffocating from no touch. (If that makes any sense) I just don't know if I could bring up the touch subject with him now that he knows I'm having transference.
What is your Ts policy on touch?
He'll hug clients if they ask, except me. Haven't asked why.


Have you touched your T?
Shook his hand 3x. Strange because he always says we're "emotionally close, physically distant." But a few months ago, I brought family to the session. After shaking all their hands, he shook my hand, too. Never talked about it afterward.


Have you hugged your T?
Nope. Never asked and don't anticipate asking in the future since he said, "If you ask me for a hug, I will say no." Can it get any clearer than that?

Does your T maintain a 4'boundary?
When we first started, he was sitting 4' in front of me and asked if it was too close. I said yes, so he moved as far back as possible - around 6.5ft. Now I feel like he's too far. Several times he's moved in about 2-3ft from me and I love it when he does that. Wish he did that more often, but I'm too scared to ask or bring it up.


Has your T touched you anywhere on your body (knee, shoulder) when you were crying?
I'm usually eating mint or candy in session to help with my nervousness. I usually offer some to him and when he accepts and takes it from my hand, we touch for a brief moment. I really, really appreciate those microsecond touches. They mean a lot to me since my parents never touched me growing up.

Now that he'll be gone all summer, I'm longing for some type of touch before he leaves. I hate his boundaries with me sometimes.

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